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I Really Shouldn’t Have Agreed to Variable Rate Technical Debt

I Really Shouldn’t Have Agreed to Variable Rate Technical Debt

Technical debt is an inevitability in any organization. But managing it requires a framework to understand the risk the technical debt represents to your organization. So how do you decide when you need a systematic refresh and when can you kick the can down the road a little longer?

This week’s episode is hosted by me, David Spark, producer of CISO Series and Mike Johnson, CISO, Rivian. Joining us is our sponsored guest Aaron Shaha, CISO, CyberMaxx.

Threat actors getting in on the AI rush

With all the breathless hype surrounding LLMs and generative AI tools, it’s surprising it took this long for us to see reports of threat actors using them. Microsoft and OpenAI released details of some attempts they’ve seen, like using AI to create malware. It’s great to disclose that, but as the major vendors of LLM services, we need to hold these companies to a higher standard. These companies need to produce actionable reports to help inform how we assess the risk of these models, and show us the work they are doing to better secure them from malicious use. 

Cybersecurity needs to account for company culture

As a discipline, cybersecurity gets into trouble when we think about it in isolation from the business. Abstract best practices are important, but if they can’t survive first contact with a company’s culture, they aren’t much use. A recent paper by Fred Hebert of Honeycomb showed this conflict in effect in hospitals, where sensible security precautions were sidestepped for the sake of lifesaving treatment. This requires cybersecurity to understand the company before building controls, by talking to the people they will impact and seeing their processes in action. 

MDR shouldn’t focus on tools

Managed detection and response (MDR) conversations often center around installing agents and other tooling. But we need to shift the conversation to exploring how MDRs can solve the human problems of your cybersecurity team so they can focus on business outcomes. Focusing on tooling can cause you to underestimate the challenge of setting up your own SOC and MDR practices, which need to understand the human elements behind attacks.

Paying down technical debt

Technical debt is inherent across any IT stack. Everyone is accruing it all the time, but not everyone strategizes on how to pay it down. Organizations need a systematic approach to the issue, Zach Zoulias of Zoba Lab argued. Right now, most technical debt conversations happen as the technology ages, where organizations determine if they can get away with another minor update or need a full infrastructure refresh. But just like with disaster recovery and business continuity plans, organizations could create robust end-of-life plans at the point of implementation. These could outline set conditions for sunsetting aging tech that won’t come as a surprise. 

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Thanks to our contributor Jon Densmore of First Mutual Holding for providing this week’s “What’s Worse?!” scenario. 

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"I really appreciate honesty. The industry is full of a lot of what we’ll call hype, and when I have a vendor come in that gives me just the straight answers, tells me exactly what their product’s capable of and not capable of, helps me understand and make a reasoned decision, and really helps me bring forward my team members that are part of that decision-making process, the CFO, the CEO, etc." - Aaron Shaha, CISO, CyberMaxx

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