[05-23-24]--​​How Do We Build a Security Program to Thwart Deepfakes?

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Getting Your Copilot Pilot Out of Pilot

Getting Your Copilot Pilot Out of Pilot

Every organization wants to achieve the productivity benefits of generative AI. But privacy and security concerns mean that very few organizations have been able to move these systems into production, noted Brian Vecci, Field CTO, Varonis. Ultimately, Microsoft Copilot and other generative AI tools can only use data based on the security model already in place at an organization.

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Joining me and Brian will be Cyrus Tibbs, CISO, PennyMac.

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How Do We Build a Security Program to Thwart Deepfakes?

We're seeing AI and LLM rapidly push what was science fiction into production. Our ability to generate realistic sound, video, and images opens the obvious door for indistinguishable fakes from the real thing. How do we keep up as security professionals?

Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap, CISO, LinkedIn. Joining us is Russ Ayres, svp of cyber and deputy CISO, Equifax.

Reality is up for grabs with deepfakes

With a lot of generative AI, the potential and reality of disruption aren’t hard to think of. Deepfakes are the most acute example. This leads some to see an explosion of disinformation and fake news, as Loga Devan Thirumalai of Deloitte Business Advisory speculated, "The outcome of such technologies, if left unchecked and unrestricted, may lead to confusion between reality and virtual world." But as with any new technology, deepfakes could also present a market opportunity. "The potential positive and negative applications make this both exciting and scary. I see a new shortlyhe near future if not already existing, ‘Reality Auditor,’" said Ejiro Iwhiwhu of Nestlé.

The reality of current technology vs. its potential

While deepfakes represent real world threats today, there are still some limits to the technology. "We are still many years away from this being accessible at the level where you can no longer distinguish reality from a game. Sorry to say it but it’s going to take quite some time before everyone can start running around Hogwarts casting spells with great graphics,” said Noble Todd of Auctane. The danger with deepfakes right now comes from passively absorbing them. As John Lawson points out, they aren’t perfect yet, saying, "If you're looking to see why it’s a fake, then you can find some evidence, but when you’re not specifically looking for the small details of fakery it will pass muster. Otherwise, it will just be casually consumed and accepted as real."

How does the rest of society adapt?

We’ve seen high profile cases of deepfakes used in fraud, but perhaps the harder challenge will be how to account for them in other aspects of society. Ron Healy of Vertex Inc wondered how the legal system will adapt, saying, "I wonder how long it will be before we see something produced by gen AI used as 'evidence' in the legal process of a crime. Humans are terrible at spotting fakes and also terrible at re-thinking what we think we know, once we think we know it." Lorne Rogers wondered how evidentiary processes will deal with deepfake content, saying “Surveillance video that is fake could be used to convict, or exonerate, people for crimes incorrectly. Video ‘evidence’ will become MORE unreliable than eyewitness testimony (and that tends to be pretty bad already)."

The new normal

Unless some very stringent regulations come into play, deepfakes will be with us. David Oliver of DOPV shared a more dystopian take on this, saying, "Deepfake is the new reality. We won’t know what is real. We already have lost faith in our institutions; as this technology improves imagine those with influence, money, and power using technologies." Organizations should already account for the reality of deepfakes in their security architecture.

Thanks to our other unwitting contributors: Ravi Lodhija of Ram Infosystems Limited and Demiro Massessi of Lifestyle Design Group.

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