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[10-24-23]--​​A CEO’s Guide To Ignoring Your Security Program (LIVE in Santa Monica)

​​A CEO’s Guide To Ignoring Your Security Program (LIVE in Santa Monica)

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A CEO’s Guide To Ignoring Your Security Program (LIVE in Santa Monica)

A CEO’s Guide To Ignoring Your Security Program (LIVE in Santa Monica)

Usually the buck stops with the CEO. But for a CISO, what do you do when a CEO wants to exempt themselves from your security program? Whether it's granting privileged network access or just ignoring protocols, it can put a CISO in a tough spot. So how do you deal with a leader that thinks they're above the controls you have in place? Is it enough to document your disagreement or is there anything else you can do in that position? 

This week’s episode is hosted by me, David Spark, producer of CISO Series and John C. Underwood, VP, information security, Big 5 Sporting Goods. We’re joined by our guest Joshua Scott, Head of Security and IT, Postman. This show was recorded in front of a live audience in Santa Monica, CA for the ISSA LA annual summit.

(From L to R: David Spark, CISO Series, John C. Underwood, CISO, Big 5 Sporting Goods, and Joshua Scott, CISO, Postman)The life of a CISO is getting more complicated

The price of being a CISO seems to keep going up. Outside of the usual milieu of threat actors, we’ve seen CISOs held personally liable in court, like former Uber CISO Joe Sullivan, and we’ve got a bevy of new regulations on the way. It’s enough to make Sean Martin of ITSP Magazine ask if the role is still worth all the pressure that comes with it. While there seems to be more pressure on CISOs than ever, part of that is the role starting to become fully integrated into the C-Suite, which holds its own pressures and responsibilities. Some of the outsized pressure right now comes from an imbalance of the responsibilities of a CISO and still being on the outside of executive leadership in many organizations.   

If security automation is so prescriptive, why do we still struggle with it?

The concept of embracing cloud security automation is ubiquitous, yet adoption eludes many. In a recent ReadWrite article, Zac Amos outlined a strategic roadmap comprising six essential steps, commencing with meticulous risk assessments and expanding to encompass cloud visibility enhancement. The journey continues with the implementation of both generalized and tailored automation solutions, the integration of automated threat monitoring, and culminates in a diligent process of evaluation and refinement. However, the central question persists: What presents the most formidable challenge for CISOs and their security teams while navigating this complex terrain?

When the CEO wants to be above your security program

The cybersecurity subreddit recently posed a thorny question. What do you do when your CEO wants to break your security best practices, asked a redditor on the cybersecurity subreddit. The buck may stop with them, but if they are requesting something obviously risky, like admin rights to the network, how do you respond? What’s key in a real world situation is creating rapport and trust with a CEO to avoid getting to that point. If your CEO gets still demands his highly risky request, it’s up to the CISO to connect the inherent risk in bad practice with how it could impact the business. 

Self-inflicted security wounds

Data leaks from so-called “friendly fire” remain a problem. Look no further than Microsoft's recent leak of a staggering 38TB of data on GitHub, stemming from a misconfigured token—a reminder that not all security breaches are orchestrated by malicious actors. These issues impact everyone. A recent thread on the cybersecurity subreddit quickly filled up with examples. We know these issues are out there, but how can we measure how common they are so we can properly understand the risk they pose. 

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"Best advice I ever got was have empathy for your users. Make sure you have a better understanding of what it is that they are up against and ensure that you’re actually helping them achieve their goals, not just putting a control on them and being the team that creates work for them." - Joshua Scott, head of security and IT, Postman

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"I don't see CISOs running away because there's going to be more transparency because they're going to have a seat at the table because they're going to have greater influence because boards and executives are going to care more about security because the SEC is looking at this more closely." - Jamil Farshchi, CISO, Equifax

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